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adding another 20 useable horsepower to the classic RnineT

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i love my 2014 rninet, but a mate let me ride his yamaha MT09 the other day and me thinks that a super tune and download of another map may give me the extra squirt that i desire
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Ooh the speed demons are calling, the old TRX 850 is the fastest thing I have ridden over the mountain. Not in top speed just in widow maker mode, you don't stop for anything. I denied myself that gluttony of fun to stay alive and with a license. Word of caution yammies have a knack of the front end disappering on you, just meerly their geomentry when pushed too hard.
I'd like to see a HP and Torque curve for the MT09 and the R9T. The MT09 may have more HP, but probably has less torque and I bet the HP and Torque max are all at a much higher RPM than the BMW. I had a GTI years ago with a whopping 103hp (a lot in those days) then replaced it with an Integra with 138hp. Both cars were about the same size, both had a 5 speed manual but the Integra was a dog in every day driving. It was gutless till I got past 6,000 rpm, and all that does is attract attention.

I'd much rather pull away with torque than to shift down, rev the crap out of the motor then shift up again. The MT09 is fun for you because you are revving high as you try it out. Spend a week riding it to work where you aren't doing full throttle take offs and you might change your mind.
i love my 2014 rninet, but a mate let me ride his yamaha MT09 the other day and me thinks that a super tune and download of another map may give me the extra squirt that i desire
BTW my son has a Yamaha MT09, and he loves it.
Personally, I don’t like the riding position (and I’ve ridden it a lot). But, then again, he doesn’t like the riding position on my Racer. To each his own! I’m pretty sure my RNT with the modifications is a faster bike than the MT-09, handles better, and has much better build quality. But, either bike can definitely get you in trouble. He has his eyes on a RNT Classic, but not the $ (yet).
If you love your R 9 then it's all about MONEY ! I have a Racer with well done mapping but I also did the exhaust and did a lot to shed weight. I'd stay away from engine mods beyond that. As I have said before on the forum. Make the suspension work, let the engine breath, let the electronics work the way the engine designers, designed it to work just before the emission mavens detuned the bloody thing. Next you need to make the motorbike as light as you can because that makes it accelerate faster,stop better and turn quicker. I have done all that to my Racer and it will keep up with almost everyone but the really fast riders on any given Sunday morning. Now if this is all about drag racing then I can't give you squat advise as it's neither my knowledge nor my passion. I love my motorbikes because when you bank them into a turn they're as close to flying as I can get without a pilots licence.
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I'd like to see a HP and Torque curve for the MT09 and the R9T. The MT09 may have more HP, but probably has less torque and I bet the HP and Torque max are all at a much higher RPM than the BMW. I had a GTI years ago with a whopping 103hp (a lot in those days) then replaced it with an Integra with 138hp. Both cars were about the same size, both had a 5 speed manual but the Integra was a dog in every day driving. It was gutless till I got past 6,000 rpm, and all that does is attract attention.

I'd much rather pull away with torque than to shift down, rev the crap out of the motor then shift up again. The MT09 is fun for you because you are revving high as you try it out. Spend a week riding it to work where you aren't doing full throttle take offs and you might change your mind.
I have a lightly tuned MT-09 with a full Akrapovic titanium exhaust and a stock 2022 R NineT Scrambler. Even with the MT-09 gearing bumped +1 in the front and -2 in the back it will run circles around the BMW in any gear except 6th.

Yes, the Yamaha numbers indicate all the HP and Torque are in the top end but the torque curve is like a table top and the throttle response is incredible everywhere in the rev range. However, I enjoy the character of the BMW engine and power delivery more. The MT-09 encourages me to want to act like a hooligan all the time, where the Scrambler feels great just bumbling along and enjoying the ride. Still lots of power available but it doesn’t encourage me to lift the front wheel every time I leave a set of lights.

That being said, my Yamaha will be sold in the spring, I have only ridden it once since acquiring the BMW.
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Fit Akra Ti headers, schwabenmax fast throttle kit, and most importantly, lightweight forged alloy (ACS) or carbon wheels and the bike will feel like it has way more than 20 more HP and the wheels will, additionally, make the bike far more agile and quick steering. I bought a Ducati 848 Evo Corse SE track bike and am amazed how agile and quick steering my 9T feels in comparison.
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Fit Akra Ti headers, schwabenmax fast throttle kit, and most importantly, lightweight forged alloy (ACS) or carbon wheels and the bike will feel like it has way more than 20 more HP and the wheels will, additionally, make the bike far more agile and quick steering. I bought a Ducati 848 Evo Corse SE track bike and am amazed how agile and quick steering my 9T feels in comparison.
Which wheels did you get?
I have a lightly tuned MT-09 with a full Akrapovic titanium exhaust and a stock 2022 R NineT Scrambler. Even with the MT-09 gearing bumped +1 in the front and -2 in the back it will run circles around the BMW in any gear except 6th.

Yes, the Yamaha numbers indicate all the HP and Torque are in the top end but the torque curve is like a table top and the throttle response is incredible everywhere in the rev range. However, I enjoy the character of the BMW engine and power delivery more. The MT-09 encourages me to want to act like a hooligan all the time, where the Scrambler feels great just bumbling along and enjoying the ride. Still lots of power available but it doesn’t encourage me to lift the front wheel every time I leave a set of lights.

That being said, my Yamaha will be sold in the spring, I have only ridden it once since acquiring the BMW.
HunterSon, Again what you are saying is that the Yamaha is quick off the lights. What I was going for was how fast my BMW was over 150 very curvy damp in places miles. To me two totally different animals.
Which wheels did you get?
I got AC Schnitzers. Wheels are 4kg lighter than stock spoked, and add another nearly 2kg for the tubes. Made an insane difference to the bike - I couldn't go back.

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HunterSon, Again what you are saying is that the Yamaha is quick off the lights. What I was going for was how fast my BMW was over 150 very curvy damp in places miles. To me two totally different animals.
Yes, they are two different animals. But make no mistake, the Yamaha is quick everywhere.
I love in Switzerland where the fines are big for speeding. I think the 9t in a decent state of tune has more than enough power for general road riding. Agree with the earlier poster who said that suspension changes made the biggest difference. The ability to carry speed around corners seems to make the biggest point to point speed gains.

That said, I've seen some video where people have added superchargers to bikes and I personally would love that noise added to the boxer sound track..
I'll just say it one more time. Light weight forged or carbon wheels. Absolutely transform this bike to feel like a sports bike. It's insane the difference it makes. The bike tips into corners much faster, steers through more easily, changes in direction like the frequent left/right on mountain roads are made much quicker allowing you to carry far more corner speed, and the bike feels as if it has a heap more hp to boot.
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I got AC Schnitzers. Wheels are 4kg lighter than stock spoked, and add another nearly 2kg for the tubes. Made an insane difference to the bike - I couldn't go back.

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Those wheels are absolutely beautiful!
But, Holy sh#*t! $2,000?
Interestingly I personally think the biggest difference between the MT09/XSR900 and the R NineT is the chassis rather than outright speed. The MTs and XSRs I've ridden feel terrifyingly fast because the level of power on offer far outclasses the suspension and brakes, whereas with the NineT that's just not the case. Every MT/XSR I've ridden has left me feeling like it was a great engine ruined by the rest of the bike, which was a source of great frustration as I wanted to like it and they're a lot more cost-effective than a NineT 😂

A riding buddy of mine used to have an XSR900 and in a straight line there was nothing in it between the XSR and my 2014 NineT, and that was before the Hilltop remap and RRRapido quick throttle. It's all about perception.
Those wheels are absolutely beautiful!
But, Holy sh#*t! $2,000?
Not cheap, but also good value compared with the price of the bike and other mods considering the difference they make. I spent a lot more on the upgraded suspension.
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