[bizkitcrux]

Installed mine today. Much better view.

Oz,
Is that the stock handlebar in your pics? To me, they look a bit lower and narrower (just what I'm looking for), or is that just the camera angle?

 

[rambam]

A few of the members have installed bar end mirrors, and when asked how, they typically respond with not the most detailed info. I wanted to fix that. So, I did some research and found a inexpensive and easy way to install a nice set.

Tools needed: Drill, bench vice, Torx socket set, socket wrench.

These are the mirrors I used:
Amazon.com: BikeMaster DC Folding Bar End Mirror

I decided on the BikeMasters as I wanted to keep a stock look by keeping the aluminum end trim, minimal modification, and dead simple bolt on design. And they are half what Rizoma's cost.



Start by taking out the bar end Torx bolt (T-55 size)

It might be harder than you expect to remove due to the factory applied loctite, but it will come out.

Unfortunately the mounting hole on the BikeMaster bar end mirrors is not large enough for the stock end bolt, so the next step is to widen it. I used a small vice to hold the mirror while drilling it out with a 1/2 bit. The metal is easy to work with, took less than 20 seconds.

Then reassemble. The factory bolt is more than long enough to hold everything in place.

Looks pretty good to me, and only takes 10 minutes from start to finish.

Sorry for the shitty garage photos, its snowing outside today

Thanks monoseanism! That was awesome help.

Now to use Migbaits knowledge and use the F850GT clamps to get rid of those empty stalks here: http://www.ninetowners.com/forum/ap...izoma-retro-bar-end-mirrors-6.html#post449049

 

[RnineT59]

Like the CRG's better and the get those OEM studs off the bars. Replace them with the RT 1200's no studs, will look allot better. At least turn them over so you can't see them.

 

[maddmike]

I started with a single black bar end and showed that drilled out. I them drilled an identical pair of gold bar ends and provided photos with the gold bar ends installed.

The Rizoma bar ends have plastic end caps that appear in the discard pile. I would have installed those but the stock bolt heads are so big the end caps won't fit.

I had a set of black Rizoma Class Retro Mirrors from a previous bike that I mounted on my R9t. These are great mirrors. Much better view beside and behind the bike and much less vibration than stock. This set came off a bike I drove into the side of an SUV that turned left in front of me. Bike was totaled, I was dazed and confused and the mirrors had barely a scratch.

I mounted them using Rizoma Bar Ends part number MA506X where X indicates the color. This is an easy process. Since I'm in the less mechanically inclined portion of our community, I'll explain the process in painful detail. You'll need the following:

Mirrors
Shims supplied with the mirrors
Bar ends MA506
Torx T55 bit
Medium strength loctite
Hand drill with 12 mm drill bit. Half inch bit would work as well but is larger than necessary. A drill press would be preferable but the results will look the same.
Metric hex key to attach the mirrors

The process is straightforward. Take the Rizoma bar ends, set aside everything but the actual aluminum bar end. Drill 12 mm holes in the bar ends. Remove the stock bar ends. Remove the loctite from the stock bar ends with denatured alcohol or goof off. Reapply medium strength loctite to the bolt. Attach the modified Rizoma bar ends with the stock R9t bolts. Attach the mirrors.

I've provided pictures below.

Here's the bar end with hardware.

You are only going to use the aluminum bar end piece. A black one is pictured here with the hole already drilled out to 12MM to be installed with the stock R9t bolt.

Once you've drilled out the hole, remove the stock bar end, clean the loctite off the bolt. Apply new medium strenth loctite and attach the Rizoma bar end with the stock R9t bolt. The outer end of the Rizoma bar end is recessed and the recessed area is deep enough to hold the head of the stock R9t bolt. The bar end will bind the end of the clutch side grip and that's fine because you probably don't twist that grip much. The throttle grip has a space to keep the bar end clear of the grip so a spacer isn't required. Lock washers might be a good idea but I didn't use them because the bolt is large and the bar end is aluminum so I figured it would bind them securely. After a 1,000 miles they haven't moved.

The mirrors definitely contact the tank if installed below the bar.

Here are a few (really bad) photos of the mirrors installed. Note that the previous picture showed a black bar end I had laying around and used to test fit the mirrors. I only had one black bar end though so once I worked it out, I ordered a full set which was on sale and happened to be gold. So the photos below show the bar end in gold. Love the gold or hate it but it makes it easy to see the parts in these photos.

The holes where the stock mirrors attached bothered me so I found a solution.

These are available in 16mm and 20mm lengths from Boltdepot.com The 20mm stand proud of the hole so I went with the 16mm. 18mm would be perfect but it's not available. The socket for the hex key is so deep that you are actually filling a hole with a smaller hole. My solution was to screw them in with my finger upside down. That way there's not a hole there. Removing them will require drilling a small hole in them so I can spin them out but that won't be a big deal. Here's how they look installed:

Hope that's helpful for anyone looking to install bar end mirrors using Rizoma hardware.

Bumping an old thread as I'm looking to add Reverse Retro to the bar ends of my ABM clip-ons. Anyone know the right kit to get for this?

 

[Jink]

Wait a second.. I'm confused. How did you mount those mirrors without having to slide the controls over to create more space on the handlebar..? Are you mounting the mirrors to the bolt that goes in on the sides or? :icon_scratch:

 

[BaldyDave]

Bar end mirror adaptors most likely. Think rhinomoto do them, amongst other companies...

 

[saberr9t]

They were mounted on Rizoma bar ends that I drilled out to accept the OEM BMW bolts. I recently learned there is a better solution.

Years ago I posted explaining how to drill Rizoma bar ends so I could mount them with stock R9t bolts. Others have drilled out their bars to remove the threading so they can use bar end accessories intended for standard handlebars that aren't threaded.

I know better now.

The problem with the R9t bars is that the bar ends are threaded and the stock bolt is huge. Because the bar ends are threaded most bar end accessories that use expanding nuts won't fit. Because the bolt is huge it won't fit through the mounting holes on most bar end accessories.

Rizoma has two solutions.

LP325B has a 6mm bolt that fits most bar ends and an expanding nut that is short enough to fit inside the R9t bar end without conflicting with the threads.

LP321 has a headless bolt the same size as the stock R9t bar end bolt. It is inserted in the bar end and tightened with an 8mm hex key. It drilled and tapped to take a six mm bolt that can be used to attach most bar end accessories.

Neither require drilling and both can be removed and returned to stock. Highly recommend getting a pair of one or the other even if you don't install them. Eventually you'll see something you want to mount on the bar end and this give you that flexibility. They are less than $20 a pair.

Use either of those to mount Rizoma bar ends MA533X. The X is an additional letter in the part number that designates the color. Once you have installed those bar ends you can mount mirrors to them.

 

[trider2015]

Mine too

A few of the members have installed bar end mirrors, and when asked how, they typically respond with not the most detailed info. I wanted to fix that. So, I did some research and found a inexpensive and easy way to install a nice set.

Tools needed: Drill, bench vice, Torx socket set, socket wrench.

These are the mirrors I used:
Amazon.com: BikeMaster DC Folding Bar End Mirror

I decided on the BikeMasters as I wanted to keep a stock look by keeping the aluminum end trim, minimal modification, and dead simple bolt on design. And they are half what Rizoma's cost.


Start by taking out the bar end Torx bolt (T-55 size)

It might be harder than you expect to remove due to the factory applied loctite, but it will come out.

Unfortunately the mounting hole on the BikeMaster bar end mirrors is not large enough for the stock end bolt, so the next step is to widen it. I used a small vice to hold the mirror while drilling it out with a 1/2 bit. The metal is easy to work with, took less than 20 seconds.

Then reassemble. The factory bolt is more than long enough to hold everything in place.

Looks pretty good to me, and only takes 10 minutes from start to finish.

Sorry for the shitty garage photos, its snowing outside today

I did mine the same way . . . Looks really nice!

 

[landski]

They were mounted on Rizoma bar ends that I drilled out to accept the OEM BMW bolts. I recently learned there is a better solution.

Years ago I posted explaining how to drill Rizoma bar ends so I could mount them with stock R9t bolts. Others have drilled out their bars to remove the threading so they can use bar end accessories intended for standard handlebars that aren't threaded.

I know better now.

The problem with the R9t bars is that the bar ends are threaded and the stock bolt is huge. Because the bar ends are threaded most bar end accessories that use expanding nuts won't fit. Because the bolt is huge it won't fit through the mounting holes on most bar end accessories.

Rizoma has two solutions.

LP325B has a 6mm bolt that fits most bar ends and an expanding nut that is short enough to fit inside the R9t bar end without conflicting with the threads.

LP321 has a headless bolt the same size as the stock R9t bar end bolt. It is inserted in the bar end and tightened with an 8mm hex key. It drilled and tapped to take a six mm bolt that can be used to attach most bar end accessories.

Neither require drilling and both can be removed and returned to stock. Highly recommend getting a pair of one or the other even if you don't install them. Eventually you'll see something you want to mount on the bar end and this give you that flexibility. They are less than $20 a pair.

Use either of those to mount Rizoma bar ends MA533X. The X is an additional letter in the part number that designates the color. Once you have installed those bar ends you can mount mirrors to them.

The LP321B install has also been done here http://www.ninetowners.com/forum/ap...d-mirrors-cheaper-alternative-rizoma-spy.html

 

[LeFluke]

I found these Kiwav mirrors on ebay. The quality is superb and it was a very simple install. I can’t praise there quality and customer service high enough.

https://kiwav.com/mirrors.html

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[Grim Rider]

Not the best photo but I did similar job - although mirrors are just cheap aluminium ones off fleabay (cost about - bought two sets in case lose one filtering!)



As for the view - once you get used to looking in the right place i reckon the view behind is as good as the originals.

 

[uuc328]

Elegant solution, thanks for sharing.

I did something similar to mount oberon clones on my scrambler. If I understand your process the OEM bar ends were 2 piece? A bolt and a metal end cap? '18 scrambler uses a 1 piece plastic for this area. I would have liked not to trash the stock part but was hard to argue with a $20 mirror swap.

 

[Parkblu]

I'm a little behind here, forgive me. As uuc328 stated, the Scrambler bar end is one flimsy plastic piece, cap and m12 (?) bolt in one.

I couldn't find any good convex non-vibrating affordable! mirrors on stalks, I found some bar end mirrors inexpensively. But somehow I'm stomped, as they have, like every other bar end mirror, expanding ends that will be tightened inside the handlebar with a small bolt. Having the m12 threaded insert in our handlebars, that approach is not working.

Do I assume correctly that the best solution will be to find m12 bolts and drill the bar ends that came with the mirrors accordingly, so an m12 bolt will fit through?

Or do you have any other spiffy solution I overlooked?

 

[Parkblu]

@motoseanism, many thanks for the detailed DIY.

I bought some inexpensive mirrors which of course didn't fit until I drilled the bar ends that came with it up to 12mm to accommodate the bolts. Though smaller, they are quite a bit of an improvement over the stock mirrors, since they don't vibrate at highway speeds but stay – oh wonder - clear.

Not my dream solution yet but much better already.

 

[Cropduster]

Thanks for posting this.

Just wanted to add that my 18 model GS Urban has a plastic bar end with the shaft and thread as part of it in one piece, and it's a T50 Torx.

Which is good news as i didn't want to go chasing the T55 which is used on the previous models that looks like they have a metal bar end and a seperate Torx bolt.

Cheers

 

[TX R nine T]

Agreed, looks like the other R9T variants (Racer, Pure, Scrambker, GS) were supplied with the plastic fixed/thread bar-end cap and yup a T50.

I ended putting on the Silver classic bar-end caps that come standard on original Classic R9T version. However had to get creative on inner bushing diameter of mirror, in order to fit some Rizoma reverse retro knockoffs onto bolt and marry with end cap.

However another option may be these guys (rhinomoto) they sell a few bar-end only options specifically for our big bolt R9T bar ends. See R9T mirror mounts here:

https://www.rhinomoto.com/product-category/bar-end-sliders/bmw-be/

 

[Gabbydad]

Thank you for this tip, worked beautifully.

A few of the members have installed bar end mirrors, and when asked how, they typically respond with not the most detailed info. I wanted to fix that. So, I did some research and found a inexpensive and easy way to install a nice set.

Tools needed: Drill, bench vice, Torx socket set, socket wrench.

These are the mirrors I used:

I decided on the BikeMasters as I wanted to keep a stock look by keeping the aluminum end trim, minimal modification, and dead simple bolt on design. And they are half what Rizoma's cost.



Start by taking out the bar end Torx bolt (T-55 size)

It might be harder than you expect to remove due to the factory applied loctite, but it will come out.

Unfortunately the mounting hole on the BikeMaster bar end mirrors is not large enough for the stock end bolt, so the next step is to widen it. I used a small vice to hold the mirror while drilling it out with a 1/2 bit. The metal is easy to work with, took less than 20 seconds.

Then reassemble. The factory bolt is more than long enough to hold everything in place.

Looks pretty good to me, and only takes 10 minutes from start to finish.

Sorry for the shitty garage photos, its snowing outside today
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[pappavol]

I bought CRG mirrors off Amazon, I moved my controls in 1/2" and re-drilled the grip mounting holes. It was an easy install fairly in expensive and the look and work great.

 

[Parkblu]

One thing I found out when I had bar-end mirrors: they practically never blurred, different than the standard mount.

I have Touratech mirrors now – the "Adventure mirrors" that fold in for narrow trails or when the bikes goes down – and they're as blurry as the stock ones :-(

Bar ends: I had plastic end caps too, one of which promptly broke when I tried to get it out. Good source for nice stainless buttoncap bolts is McMaster-Carr.

 

[jwlhall]

I found these Kiwav mirrors on ebay. The quality is superb and it was a very simple install. I can’t praise there quality and customer service high enough.

Draw Everyone's Attention by Installing A Fabulous Mirror. - KiWAV Mirrors

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Just got these too - excellent customer service, no vibration, great view, well made, inexpensive and none of the the usual messing around - everything is there to screw them straight onto my Racer bars.