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I am thinking of having this done and thought I'd share with the group this from Jet-Hot High Performance Coatings:



"Thank you for your interest in Jet-Hot High Performance Coatings. The cost to coat your_BMW header_in Extreme 1300 Satin Black finish is $250 plus the cost of return shipping($45).


Jet-Hot backs their product with a life time warranty. If you feel it has not lived up to its billing just give us a call. The lead time for processing is_7-8 business days.

Please note that if there is ceramic on the parts a coating removal fee will be added. We cannot process parts that are chromed. The chrome must be removed before sending to Jet-Hot for processing."​



So is the OEM exhaust is chromed? I think not but appreciate the confirmation.
 

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I am thinking of having this done and thought I'd share with the group this from Jet-Hot High Performance Coatings:


"Thank you for your interest in Jet-Hot High Performance Coatings. The cost to coat your_BMW header_in Extreme 1300 Satin Black finish is $250 plus the cost of return shipping($45).


Jet-Hot backs their product with a life time warranty. If you feel it has not lived up to its billing just give us a call. The lead time for processing is_7-8 business days.

Please note that if there is ceramic on the parts a coating removal fee will be added. We cannot process parts that are chromed. The chrome must be removed before sending to Jet-Hot for processing."​

So is the OEM exhaust is chromed? I think not but appreciate the confirmation.
Sorry, it's chromed.
 

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I am thinking of having this done and thought I'd share with the group this from Jet-Hot High Performance Coatings:
Also, while Jet-Hot is the go-to for internet searches on coating headers on a BMW boxer, you've probably got a half a dozen shops within 30mins of you that apply the same coatings. In addition to being cheaper, they may also strip the chrome at no additional charge.

Here's an example nearish you:

Elite Coatings NY - Powder Coating, Ceramic Coating, Coating Specialists
 

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Fantastic. Thanks for setting me straight and on a better path.
No prob.

As an example, here are the prices for the local guy I plan to use:

Motorcycle Exhaust Black or Gray / Polished Silver

4 Cylinder Header $200 ea/ $220 ea
2 Cylinder Header $140 - $200 ea/ $160 - $220 ea
1 Cylinder Header $110 ea/ $130 ea
Muffler $45 ea/ $60 ea

That includes prep, and obviously I'd save the cost of shipping both ways.
 

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Ceramic Coating Motorcycle Exhaust

I am thinking of having this done and thought I'd share with the group this from Jet-Hot High Performance Coatings:



"Thank you for your interest in Jet-Hot High Performance Coatings. The cost to coat your_BMW header_in Extreme 1300 Satin Black finish is $250 plus the cost of return shipping($45).


Jet-Hot backs their product with a life time warranty. If you feel it has not lived up to its billing just give us a call. The lead time for processing is_7-8 business days.

Please note that if there is ceramic on the parts a coating removal fee will be added. We cannot process parts that are chromed. The chrome must be removed before sending to Jet-Hot for processing."​



So is the OEM exhaust is chromed? I think not but appreciate the confirmation.
No worries. Done PROPERLY, Ceramic Coating chrome pipes is NOT an issue so long as there is no catastrophic failure of the current chrome plating, i.e. peeling or blistering. If that's the case then it would generally be necessary to remove the chrome before hand. If the chrome is of traditional copper/nickel / chrome variety, the best way to do this is via chemical stripping. Historically, most German and Euro chrome has not been very high quality so that may allow for some other opportunities to strip.

You want to consider temperature rating as well. A 1300 degree Ceramic is somewhat useless for bikes like this. You're going to want a "High Temp Ceramic Coating". These materials are going to be rated in the 1700F -2000F+ range.
 

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What would be a benefit of coating for bike as such, beside looks?

This exhaust is not near flesh and protecting rider from heat does not seems to be priority here. This also a no race bike and squeezing every tiny bit of performance does not seems necessary to me. So this would be just for looks right? Or am i missing something? Which is very very possible!!! LOL :)
 

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You want to consider temperature rating as well. A 1300 degree Ceramic is somewhat useless for bikes like this. You're going to want a "High Temp Ceramic Coating". These materials are going to be rated in the 1700F -2000F+ range.
Jet Hot 1300 is pretty standard for this application actually. I can't imagine the headers on this bike ever getting over 1000 degrees under normal conditions. Most people report satisfactory results after tens of thousands of miles.

My local shop will be doing mine in Cermakrome, which is also rated up to 1300. For those interested in a polished finish there are no coatings available anywhere that are rated higher.

What would be a benefit of coating for bike as such, beside looks?

This exhaust is not near flesh and protecting rider from heat does not seems to be priority here. This also a no race bike and squeezing every tiny bit of performance does not seems necessary to me. So this would be just for looks right? Or am i missing something? Which is very very possible!!! LOL :)
Of course it's for looks, what else?
 

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What would be a benefit of coating for bike as such, beside looks?

This exhaust is not near flesh and protecting rider from heat does not seems to be priority here. This also a no race bike and squeezing every tiny bit of performance does not seems necessary to me. So this would be just for looks right? Or am i missing something? Which is very very possible!!! LOL :)

Although there is certainly some functionality and benefit to coating these pipes, the greater majority ceramic coat their exhaust pipes for aesthetics reasons.

Personally I love the blacked out look on most bikes. But there are some bikes with different color combinations that look better in shades of silver, gun metal, gray, gold, etc. That being said, I think that ALL bikes look better with a clean, ceramic coated pipes as opposed to oxidized, discolored or rusted pipes.....
 

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Jet Hot 1300 is pretty standard for this application actually. I can't imagine the headers on this bike ever getting over 1000 degrees under normal conditions. Most people report satisfactory results after tens of thousands of miles.

My local shop will be doing mine in Cermakrome, which is also rated up to 1300. For those interested in a polished finish there are no coatings available anywhere that are rated higher.


Of course it's for looks, what else?

Unless this bike is tuned significantly different than ones of the recent past, Bright ceramic, will NOT hold up very long. You will dull out the first 12-16 of the pipe fairly quickly. Some will go into failure mode. The rest of the pipe will darken up significantly as well.....

For sake of this conversation, pretty much all of the available bright ceramics have the same operating temperatures. They are rated at 1000F- 1100F metal temp, which translates to 1300F - 1500F EGT's. So historically, most hot / lean / high performance / air-cooled motors and even some liquid cooled engines don't fair well with this coating.

A good rule of thumb is looking at your current pipes. If they look like a rainbow, chances are bright ceramic will not be your friend.
 

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Ok looks it is :)

How will ceramic coating perform under header wrap? Yes PURELY for looks for those who like the look of the wrap.
 

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@25PSi - slightly confused here.... Why would you want to spend money on a high quality ceramic coating and then cover it up with header wrap? Am I missing something?
 

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Jet Hot 1300 is pretty standard for this application actually. I can't imagine the headers on this bike ever getting over 1000 degrees under normal conditions. Most people report satisfactory results after tens of thousands of miles.

My local shop will be doing mine in Cermakrome, which is also rated up to 1300. For those interested in a polished finish there are no coatings available anywhere that are rated higher.


Of course it's for looks, what else?

This is a pretty typical result of bright ceramic in this application. Some better, some worse. The coatings reaction to temperature is nearly absolute and very predictable. So when you hit that temperature threshold in stop and go traffic, pulling a long series of hills, tuning issues etc, the pipes will turn.





 

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It is believed (No personal exp on the subject though!) that wrapped exhaust gets nasty and rots under the wrap. Please, do NOT kill the messenger this is just what i have had gathered from researching. MY previous bike was much more modern looking machine and did not lead itself to the wraps.
 

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Unless this bike is tuned significantly different than ones of the recent past, Bright ceramic, will NOT hold up very long. You will dull out the first 12-16 of the pipe fairly quickly. Some will go into failure mode. The rest of the pipe will darken up significantly as well.....

For sake of this conversation, pretty much all of the available bright ceramics have the same operating temperatures. They are rated at 1000F- 1100F metal temp, which translates to 1300F - 1500F EGT's. So historically, most hot / lean / high performance / air-cooled motors and even some liquid cooled engines don't fair well with this coating.

A good rule of thumb is looking at your current pipes. If they look like a rainbow, chances are bright ceramic will not be your friend.


I've been on boxers for almost ten years now. I've known dozens of riders who've had theirs coated and have seen testimonials and pictures from hundreds of other riders over the years online. My first R1200R (Hexhead) was Cermakromed and with the exception of some dulling (more like the first 4-6 inches) the coating held up brilliantly for over 20k miles and my shop assured me I could polish it back to like new if I was so inclined. I've never seen or heard anything to the contrary from other riders using their motorcycles under normal conditions.
 

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Ok looks it is :)

How will ceramic coating perform under header wrap? Yes PURELY for looks for those who like the look of the wrap.
If you plan to wrap a mild steel pipe it is ALWAYS a good idea to coat it first. But keep in mind, wrap can be very detrimental to pipes and requires periodic inspection for corrosion damage.

Even if your pipes aren't getting wet from rain / snow they will pick up moisture from hot / cold cycles and condensation. This can destroy pipes rather quickly as you can see.





 

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Thank you for this "Evidence" LOL
What if the pipes indeed are stainless?
Wrapping SS isn't really a problem. You'll get some oxidation / corrosion but no rust through issues like with mild steel.

Some will say it could hurt the SS pipes because of the heat, but I have never seen an this in SS or mild steel. I think these problems emanated from welding / fabrication issues as opposed to thermal concerns.
 

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@BaldyDave

It is believed (No personal exp on the subject though!) that wrapped exhaust gets nasty and rots under the wrap. Please, do NOT kill the messenger this is just what i have had gathered from researching. MY previous bike was much more modern looking machine and did not lead itself to the wraps.

No offence meant, mate... :D Just genuinely couldn't get my head around why anyone would pay a significant amount of money to ceramic coat an exhaust header, then cover it in wrap which hides the coating? If it were me and I had scruffy headers I'd just apply the wrap on top of the header if the pipes were sound, or apply a DIY coating of high temp exhaust paint to seal the headers if they were rusty (after prepping them, of course) before the exhaust wrap went on....


I guess it comes down to personal preference.... I will admit to just not seeing where the asthetic beauty of wrapping an exhaust comes from.... Then again I never had any fashion sense! lol ;)


Horses for courses, mate. We all have our preferences and I'm not saying anyone is wrong here. :)
 

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NO worries Mr.Baldie none at all offence taken. I work in IT, peeps bitch at me WHOLE DAY LONG i aint taking it personally LOL
@CCPcoatings - Thanks for great insight into this matter! Very helpful.
 
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