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I’ve always wanted a Diavel. When I bought my R9T back in 2015, I test rode one. Didn’t like the cruiser-ish seating, especially coming from a sport bike. I thought it was too radical a change and just never felt comfortable. In the end, I ended up with the R9T and have thoroughly enjoyed it.

I just caught the I-have-to-get-new-bike bug. So I thought I’d see what else is out there. Some bikes that have me up watching YouTube videos:

1. 2023 Diavel V4
2. MV Augusta Dragster RCS
3. Aprillia Tuono Factory.

Other than the Diavel, all super nakeds.

Well, I just rode the Diavel. Let’s just say that I’ve never understood what people mean when they say that a bike lacks character. It is such a subjective thing. The reviewers all bring it up from time to time and I never put too much weight into it, because I never really know what they mean. Today, after riding the Diavel, I found out what it means. The bike is butter smooth, pulls like a freight train in Touring and Sport modes; so easy to maneuver and top-notch handling for a bigger bike. Absolutely nothing to not like, other than, it LACKS CHARACTER. Now I know what it means.

Almost clinical precision. In my line of work, you’d need that when performing surgery. When I ride, at least on the road, I am not too sure how I’d like it. They have moved the pegs slightly backwards, but it still feels like riding a cruiser. Oh but what a sweet handling cruiser.

In the end, my opinion mirrors a bit of the bike’s character. I’m unsure if I want this bike that is unsure if it is a cruiser or a hyper naked.

As I was leaving the dealership I came across the 2023 M1000R. I sat on it and just felt like it fit me like a glove. So adding that to the list.
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When I hear folks talk about a motorcycle having "character" I understand as a subjective matter. For example, when I'm told this motorcycle has loads of character I'm thinking, "Right, it shakes, rattles and is so loud that after 30 minutes I need to take a nap". On the other end, lack of it makes me think that I could ride it for hours without getting tired. But being buttery smooth could be boring to some riders. I have a riding buddy who once owned a Diavel and he told me the acceleration was so exciting that it bordered on scary. He mentioned handling was good but had problems on very curvy backroads. He got rid of it only because of maintenance and service costs. Still if you have the resources to own multiply bikes a Diavel may be an option. Sometimes you may want to ride a buttery smooth bike instead of one with "character" that day. It is nice to have choices but not too many. Good Luck on your next purchase.
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Congratulations on choosing the M1000R. Share photos when you take delivery.
I attended the launch night of the Diavel at the local Ducati/Triumph dealer shop (which sadly closed a few years ago). It was a fun night where they revealed the new bike, with some food and drinks, and a bunch of riders standing around just enjoying the scene. I've looked at that bike few times but never considered buying one. Besides the fact I couldn't afford one back then, it just didn't fit my "all-arounder" preference as a one-bike-at-a-time motorcyclist. Still, I can definitely appreciate the Diavel for what it is, which is (in my opinion) a sporty power cruiser.

Of the bikes you listed above, I'd probably get the Aprilia V4 Tuono Factory. Having owned a 6th generation Honda VFR for many years, I have an affinity for V4s. But the M1000R is a fantastic bike, too. Good luck with whatever direction you go! 👍
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I may of made a mistake as to the bike mentioned. I was talking about the Diavel with the L-Twin engine and not the V-4.

If I was going to buy a sport cruiser the Diavel L-Twin would be on my list.

By the way, I did recently see a review from a UK blogger who liked it somewhat but called it a "one trick pony". It would be nice for half-day rides to the beach, coffee shop or pub.
The M1000R was high on my list, in the end $4k extra, 8% interest and the fact that I'd never track it pushed me in another direction.

The V4 Diavel looks amazing (way out of my $$ range) and with the spring valves instead of desmodromic valves makes the valve check interval something 36k miles and oil changes 9k miles (pretty amazing).

The only cruiser-ish bikes I like are the Diavel and the Rocket III.

Oddly enough my R9T has become my "Cruiser"
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In the Uk most reviewers seem to like the new Diavel

Congratulations on choosing the M1000R. Share photos when you take delivery.
haven’t made the final decision yetbut the MR has rocketed onto the top of the list. There’s something still pulling towards the Diavel. I guess I have lusted after it for so long that it’s playing mind games with me.
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In the Uk most reviewers seem to like the new Diavel

most reviewers seem to like it, but they don’t ride it daily. Maybe it’s me just denying that I’m pushing 50 and this not wanting to buy a cruiser.
I wish I could keep both bikes, the R9T still makes me giggle
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I may of made a mistake as to the bike mentioned. I was talking about the Diavel with the L-Twin engine and not the V-4.

If I was going to buy a sport cruiser the Diavel L-Twin would be on my list.

By the way, I did recently see a review from a UK blogger who liked it somewhat but called it a "one trick pony". It would be nice for half-day rides to the beach, coffee shop or pub.
not that I had a long ride on it, but the Diavel is far from being a one trick pony. It does so many things without a fuss that it’s almost boring.
Ok let me get this right, the L-Twin has Desmo and the V-4 has spring valves. If so I definitely would only consider the L-Twin just for the "character" of Desmo.

Loved it on my old Ducati Monster.
I'd be tempted to have a go on a new Rocket 3 before making any decision. IMO I just can't come to terms with the Diavel's looks at all. I used to have a BMW K75S and that did everything well but was just sooooo boring and had zero character. I sold it soon after buying it. I also had a Kawasaki GPZ900R in my youth and a GSXR1000 and whilst those bikes were great sports bikes and handled really well and were very fast in their day, well they never left any lasting impression on me. I can remember when buying them I loved their speed but their character was a bit lacking (not as bad as the K75 though). The character was really in their speed and top end power band (especially the 900R) and they just goaded me into going faster and faster to get my fix so I was going to either lose my license or really hurt myself (or worse). The R nineT and the le Mans I have are just fun bikes, no matter what speed they are used at. They both make me smile. If I am out for a real retro ride the Guzzi would be my choice (its still nippy enough when needed and handles OK compared to the 9T). If I might want to go a bit quicker and have some real fun in the twisties, I'll take the R9T. No question the R9T handles better and is way faster - well it is almost 40 years younger but as far as making me smile they are both the same.

The point I'm trying to make (probably badly) is that if your gut is telling you the Diavel lacks character the novelty of having something that is fast and handles well might wear off more quickly than you think. Personally I've now learned that if a bike doesn't really grab me quickly in some tangible way when riding it for the first time I tend to walk away. That's just me however.

Good luck with whatever decision you make. :)
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Outstanding Dave!!!
I heard some terrible feedback from the Ducati dealerships about the old diavels being unreliable “even for a Ducati”. The new Ducati 1103 v4 engines (Panigale/SF v4) are fast but from 1st hand experience are hopelessly unreliable and have an appalling real world range (<60 miles) Not sure if the new Diavel v4 real world range is much better but it needs to be at least double! Last week I did 1500 miles across portugal and spain, ~250 miles a day, I hired a 1250 GS which was perfect, my old SF v4 wouldnt have made it from one petrol station to the next (that is if it didnt break down before finishing the tank of fuel of course)
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