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You can also use the R1200GS (>2009 to 2012) model maps as same engine and heaps of maps online for various configurations of intakes and exhaust

Did you tried them before Roadrunner?
 

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Did you tried them before Roadrunner?
No, I don't have a PC5, but the DynoJet agent told me they would work just fine as other than the muffler the engines are identical.
 

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Humm, ok. I check the maps they have for the r1200gs and they have from 2007 to 2009. I open them and compare betwen the 2. They have total diferente values in the tables...
 

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I make my search to 2009 model. They also have the 2007 in the same spot...
 

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Any experience with Dual Autotune?

I have the Auto Tune also. The AT-300. It makes my maps more easy, as i dont have here in Qatar any type of Dyno for bikes...
With both parts (PC5 and AutoTune) the bike runs smother, linear and more fast than original. I also have GPR headers and im waiting for my Spark Dark Megaphone slip on. I remember when install the PC5 and AutoTune i dont feel so much diference, just a little bit more power.
One or two weeks ago, i need to take off everthing and put the bike stock... what a diference! The bike it was slow and more dificult to ride a slow speed. I was asking my self: "This is the diference betwen with our without PC5? I dont remember to see so much diference on a positive way...". After a 3 or 4 days i install everthing again. Oh man, what a diference! I feel the bike like a total diferente one. I was speaking to my helmet: "Its good to have my 9T again!!".
So, with this i just can tell you, YES, if you can buy the PC5 and AutoTune. Just ride and give time to AutoTune make your map as you like, and maybe you dont feel the diference instantly, becouse AutoTune its building the map in live as you ride and it takes alot of kms to build a good one, but she is there.
If you have a Dyno near you, i think you dont need the AutoTune, and you will feel the diference immediately, becouse they do the same job (or better) then AutoTune but in one hour or two...
 

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Can you comment a bit more on this? Theoretically the DynoJet PC5 should work the same as a reflash, no?

It does not. With a flashed ECU the ECU is literally overwritten. It can be created from a dyno run of your bike or from another bike setup the same way.

The PC5 does not actually modify the ECU. It piggybacks on it to force the changes to happen with the Air/Fuel Ratio. The PC5 has a map of its own.

Layer in the DynoJet AutoTune and you have a system that constantly monitors what's happening. You load your base map with the Air/Fuel Ratio you want at throttle percentage/speed/gear and it tells the PC5 what changes need to happen to achieve your target AFR with a +/- 20 swing. As you put more miles on this system, you can use the AutoTune to update the base map to make it more precise and to reduce the "in the moment" adjustments needed.

It's a very nice system. But a custom tune, for your bike, on a dyno is a better way to go.

*i have a PC5/AutoTune on my bike
 

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Can you comment a bit more on this? Theoretically the DynoJet PC5 should work the same as a reflash, no?
Google it and make your own decisions ;) ... I really don't want to get into the debate :eek:
 

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In a few months- I will be deciding.. Dyno Jet - or another brand. I have always done custom tuning, but wonder if 'Auto tune' is the future?

A close friend has Bren Tuning on his S1000RR - It made a huge difference w/ exhaust.

IMHO, The one thing Dyno Jet has over Bren - is the quick shifter module. And this bike could really benefit from that! My Sv has a quick shifter, and it really helps keeping the big 'bikes' in sight.
 

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I'm not interested in a debate either. I would however appreciate if you can share any pros and cons with each solution. :)
What @rettek said above.

However "why" do you want to tune the 9T? I understand some hardware mods such as air filters and exhaust will require AFR change, but from a performance aspect it isn't a huge difference. A boosterPlug will resolve most drivability issues and make the bike less hesitant under throttle.
 
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I'm not doing much myself at the moment. I already run a BoosterPlug and am quite happy with it.

So as I understand the PCV only controls air fuel, while a complete re-tune can adapt the timing and such. Is there a tool that a consumer can purchase to re-tune themselves?
 

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Your chart


2014 BMW R Nine T
I have installed the Remus Headers, Remus Hypercore Muffler and a PCV. I had a local shop tune my bike on the Dyno and put a custom tune on it. My tech said the bike came in with 90 HP and left with 102.61 HP at 78.14 lb/ft after the tune....
The bike is rated at 110 HP with 88 lb/ft torque from the dealer.....I am confused!!!!
The tune smoothed out the power, but I don't know if I like it, I liked the snappier throttle response..........the base tune from PCV was quite good.....
The exhaust note with the Hypercore is ANGRY and loud!!! I was under the assumption that there was a removable baffle, but there is not.........
I have attached my Dyno Results for review, sorry for limited visibility.....


Q's
Is there loss of HP calculation in the 'Dyno' testing procedure?
I figured I would be up around 120+hp......why not?
Is the 110 HP stated from BMW different than reality of RWHP?
Does anyone have a custom tune for these same upgrades I have?
Thoughts on an Auto Tune Kit, another $400+!?!?!?!?!?
Does the PCV allow you to extend the max speed?
Any warranty hazards to worry about?
Random, does a K1300 BMW rear rim fit on a Nine T?


Love this bike!! I've never seen another on the streets where I live or at any bike night!!!!!!
 

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2014 BMW R Nine T
I have installed the Remus Headers, Remus Hypercore Muffler and a PCV. I had a local shop tune my bike on the Dyno and put a custom tune on it. My tech said the bike came in with 90 HP and left with 102.61 HP at 78.14 lb/ft after the tune....
The bike is rated at 110 HP with 88 lb/ft torque from the dealer.....I am confused!!!!
The tune smoothed out the power, but I don't know if I like it, I liked the snappier throttle response..........the base tune from PCV was quite good.....
The exhaust note with the Hypercore is ANGRY and loud!!! I was under the assumption that there was a removable baffle, but there is not.........
I have attached my Dyno Results for review, sorry for limited visibility.....


Q's
Is there loss of HP calculation in the 'Dyno' testing procedure?
I figured I would be up around 120+hp......why not?
Is the 110 HP stated from BMW different than reality of RWHP?
Does anyone have a custom tune for these same upgrades I have?
Thoughts on an Auto Tune Kit, another $400+!?!?!?!?!?
Does the PCV allow you to extend the max speed?
Any warranty hazards to worry about?
Random, does a K1300 BMW rear rim fit on a Nine T?


Love this bike!! I've never seen another on the streets where I live or at any bike night!!!!!!
All manufacturers quote power and torque as per output at the crank, not the wheel. Dyno's typically measure power put to the ground, not the crank.


Furthermore, numbers vary from between dyno's due to calibration and brands. Don't read it as an absolute truth, but rather a method at looking at the delta gained and the smoothness of power delivery.
 
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