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I have started reading up on the GS-911 Diagnostic Tool.
Anyone have one of these or used one in the past?

As much as I like collecting gadgets, will this one pay for itself?
What real world problems can it solve?
Reading error codes is helpful, but don't we get an error explanation in the instrument info panel?

I see it performing the following;
  • Resetting service reminders
    Reading & clearing fault codes
    Showing ECU information (how is this helpful?)
If any one of these do-it-yourself jobs means one less trip to the dealer, that's a win for me, but if I can't up-grade software or decipher complex techno babble, am I just wasting my time . . . and $$$ ? :confused:

So is this just a Big Boys Toy, or a real workshop tool? :rolleyes:
 

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I have one that I bought to service my GS.

There are two models of it; with Bluetooth and Without Bluetooth. The model with Bluetooth allows you to use it with some mobile OS - good if you're on tour and without a full computer. The app (I use Android) works fine but isn't pretty. The difference is $50 US, well worth it.

Then there are two versions of it, the Enthusiast and the Professional. The difference here is that the Enthusiast only allows a maximum of ten VIN numbers to receive full service functionality, but you can use it to read and clear fault codes on any number of bikes. The Professional version is unlimited. The price difference here is +$200 and an Enthusiast can be software updated to Professional.

So to answer your questions:

The fault codeq on the bike is just a light. Light goes on = Something bad has happened, please fix me.

The GS911 goes way way way beyond reading and clearing fault codes. I've never used a BMW workshop tool but I'm willing to bet that the GS911 has nearly identical capabilities. The depth of information available is huge and it also allows you to perform processes, such as bleeding air from the ABS system. You can see realtime data for pretty much every sensor, so no more guessing what's wrong. The full on PC software is well designed and very straightforward. If you're just a little bit experienced with technology and modern vehicles then you'll have no issues figuring the tool out.

I do my own services on two bikes now and I think that it will save me money in the long run and am glad to have bought it. If things go wrong (hopefully they won't) I'm confident that I can accurately and quickly diagnose the issues.

Let me know if you have specific questions... I'll try to shoot a video of it in action for you.
 

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I forgot to mention, I think a new device is in beta that allows you to use it with iOS. No idea on a release timeframe though...
 

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Wongadon, thank you for the reply, very informative. :)

Looks like another new tool coming my way!
 

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I forgot to mention, I think a new device is in beta that allows you to use it with iOS. No idea on a release timeframe though...
Actually, its not beta. Its on the App store, and works via wifi. Of course the Hex site does not really discuss this much, as they are obviously Windows/Java programmers. The wifi software works on both iPhone and iPad. I assume the wifi version on the Hex unit, is a beta version, as you mentioned

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/gs-911wifi/id771720761?mt=8
 

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Actually, its not beta. Its on the App store, and works via wifi. Of course the Hex site does not really discuss this much, as they are obviously Windows/Java programmers. The wifi software works on both iPhone and iPad. I assume the wifi version on the Hex unit, is a beta version, as you mentioned

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/gs-911wifi/id771720761?mt=8

Unless you have a beta version of the new GS911 with wifi capability the app is useless. The current versions available do not have wifi capabilities. Hexcode released a few test units into the wild but they are not yet for sale.
 

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Unless you have a beta version of the new GS911 with wifi capability the app is useless. The current versions available do not have wifi capabilities. Hexcode released a few test units into the wild but they are not yet for sale.
Got it. Guess the reviews I looked at the other day were on the Beta version. Makes sense. They were using an iPad. From reading their site, looks to me like these guys are about 5 years behind hardware wise. I did see, the wifi version (and I assume their live version) supports the NineT now.
 

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Actually the live version does not list the nineT yet, but selecting R1200R works perfectly. I'm hoping for, but not expecting, Hexcode to offer a trade up program... i'm an iOS person and have to stash an old Android phone in my tool kit.
 

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Actually the live version does not list the nineT yet, but selecting R1200R works perfectly. I'm hoping for, but not expecting, Hexcode to offer a trade up program... i'm an iOS person and have to stash an old Android phone in my tool kit.
The latest Beta version now does support the NineT. I just downloaded it yesterday and voilá, there it is. Connected it to the bike and everything checks out.
 

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The latest Beta version now does support the NineT. I just downloaded it yesterday and voilá, there it is. Connected it to the bike and everything checks out.
Hey zugvogel, as another GS-911 user, are you able to add anything further to my original post? It would be good to hear your observations. Thanks. ;)

Also, when I get this unit, should I upgrade to the Beta version of the software straight away, (for the nineT), or wait until the public version is released? :confused:
 

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What's the hardware connector you need to connect to your iPhone & R9T?
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By what I have read (haven't used one yet), the unit connects directly to the nineT via the diagnostic port.
Then to read/download the data off the unit, you can either connect it to a PC/laptop via a USB cable, (with the standard unit), or get the Bluetooth version and connect to iOS or Android wirelessly.

** Please correct me if I am wrong **
 

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I have had my GS911 for 5 or 6 years now and I went with the Bluetooth version so I could use it while on the road with my phone. There are a lot of things you can not do with this, e.g. Programming the bike to accept the heated grips. For this you will still have to go to the dealer. But if you do your own maintenance like I do, it is useful to reset the service counter. You can set the interval to your liking as well, time or mileage based.

One time on the road after a very long and exhausting day I dropped my GS at a stop where the pavement sloped away so I could not get a good footing. After that drop the bike would not start, just cranking but not starting. So having no idea what the issue is I connected my GS911 with my Blackberry and the error code read out was clear as day: Fuel pump error. Putting one and one together I figured the drop resulting in the bike leaning way over, i.e. tank lower than horizontal, the bike went into safe mode and switched off the fuel pump to avoid a disaster. So I disconnected the battery, waited, connected again. After that the bike started up with no problem and I was glad I paid for the 911. The campground and a nice strong beverage was just minutes away at that point.
I guess smarter men than me could have figured it out without the gadget, but being completely exhausted that day I sure needed the little help.

So, yes you can get by without it but it is definitely nice to have. I have 4 R bikes from an 1100 to the latest being the NineT and I service all of them with it plus my buddies GS.
 

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Important to know: iOS is very restrictive and does not allow API access other than Audio streaming, so NO, iOS does not work with the Bluetooth GS-911.
I keep my GS911 and an old Blackberry plus charger cable with my tools on the bike...
 

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where can i buy the HEX GS-911wifi version? saw USB and Bluetooth ones around but want the wifi version to be able to connect to my iPhone.
 

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where can i buy the HEX GS-911wifi version? saw USB and Bluetooth ones around but want the wifi version to be able to connect to my iPhone.
Not available yet, still in Beta testing.
Possibly June/July if all goes OK.
 
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What about a fifteen quid unit from Amazon/eBay with a BMW adapter? Does that work - it says it works fine with BMW cars.
 

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I had one for my GS. They are necessary if you do your own servicing etc. Very good tool, especially if you are in the middle of the Outback with some fault. Not sure I'd get one for my 9T until it is out of warranty and I need to reset etc.
 
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