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I don't think a Thruxton or a Breva are worthy competitors for the NineT.

To find a bike that goes in the same direction, i think we should look to the Ducati sport classic or the Guzzi Griso.

Do you see some more possibilities ?

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Moto Guzzi Griso is cheaper but no ABS

Moto Guzzi Griso 8V SE

Griso 8V SE has impeccable style; this machine is an instinctive creation, pure, solid and distinctive and in many ways a work of art. The design details are discreet but elegant and pure quality; the lines blend together and are accentuated by the chrome finishing and satin metal. The fuel tank lends itself superbly to the strong frame creating an aerodynamic teardrop body which is continued through to the tail which houses three high intensity LED light units.

The Griso is decidedly masculine and powerful yet the “Quattrovalvole” engine seems to be set like a jewel in a frame that shows off its revolutionary design to the utmost effect. Returning to the performance, it becomes obvious that the sophisticated components are not mere technical details included for the sake of style but enhances performance and provides guaranteed reactivity.

Type : Four-stroke V 90 twin
Cooling : Air and oil cooled with independent cooling pump
Capacity : 1,151cc
Bore and stroke : 95 x 81.2 mm
Compression ratio : 11 : 1
Timing diagram : Intake valve opening 36° before upper TDC.
(play 1 mm) Intake closing 62° after lower TDC.
Exhaust valve opening 58° before lower TDC.
Exhaust valve closing 30° after upper TDC.
measured with rocker arm/valve play
of 1.5 mm
Maximum power output : Over 80.8 kW (110 CV) at 7,500 rpm
Max Torque : Over 108 Nm at 6,400 rpm
Fuel supply/ignition : Multipoint sequential electronic injection, Magneti Marelli IAW 5A phased, alfa-n system; 2 x Ø50 mm throttle bodies with Weber IWP 189 injectors, Lambda probe.
Starter : Electric
Spark plugs : NGK PMR8B (Long Life)
Exhaust System: Stainless steel two-into-one 3-way catalysed with Lambda probe.
Homologation : Euro 3
Gearbox : 6 speed
Gear ratios : 1st 17/38 = 1 : 2.235
: 2nd 20/34 = 1 : 1.700
: 3rd 23/31 = 1 : 1.348
: 4th 26/29 = 1 : 1.115
: 5th 31/30 = 1 : 0.968
: 6th 29/25 = 1 : 0.862
Lubrication : Oil bath
Primary drive : Helicoidal gears, ratio 26/35 = 1 : 1.346
Final drive : CA.R.C reactive drive; double universal joint with floating bevel gear, ratio 12/44 = 1 : 3,666
Clutch : Single plate with integrated flexible couplings
Frame : High tensile steel tubular twin cradle
Wheelbase : 1,554 mm
Rake : 108 mm
Steering rake : 26.30°
Steering angle. : 34°
Front suspension : Upside down Ø 43 mm fully adjustable forks (spring preload and hydraulic for rebound and compression) with mounting for radial calipers.
Front wheel travel : 120 mm
Rear suspension : Progressive single swingarm, fully adjustable monoshock with separate gas reservoir (spring preload and hydraulic for rebound and compression).
Rear wheel travel : 110 mm

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You cant forget about the Monster 1100Evo, which is 30kg lighter, but down 10HP.
+1 I agree with Admin. opinion. It's a heads up contest on tight mountain roads. Open roads may give Ducati an advantage.

But the NineT will have more customize options for the owner.

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I don't see that the T has much comparable competition. That's to say from my point of view anyway. A large number of the buyers for this bike will be previous Beemer owners and probable multiple owners. This ones really one for the "fans" I don't think the T was conceived primarily to bring new riders into the marque like the S1000R definitely was.
Just my view, and more than happy to stand corrected!


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I agree that the Griso is similiar in concept to the nineT. I have a 2008 1200 Sport. Guzzi never imported the 8V motor; if they had I probably wouldn't be looking at the nineT.

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Yamaha MT 09 with ABS is also not far away .... but with only 8000 Euro you get
nearly 2 of it for one Nine T !!!!

Don`t ask why i bought a Nine T ........ :)
The MT-09 sounds like a good deal with so much for the price but the rarity of the NineT will get most of the attention it deserves while the MT will be something commonly seen on the roads.
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