[Nico9T]

Hi @Error Flynn, my only concern is the EU5 regulation. Our mayor in Rome is quite picky and tends to restrict circulation, only allowing vehicles running on the latest possible (with some exceptions up to now), so my fear is that sooner than I expected I might have some restrictions circulating in the city.

This is exactly what happens in Milan and in the whole Lombardy region! I have a 2014 Euro 3 and it won't be allowed to enter in Milan (Area B) starting October 2028 but I really don't care because it will be 14 years old and once it will be 20 years old I will apply for the historical registration (CRS) and use it with no limits until its natural end. Outside Milan resctrictions will apply mostly on winter months so it's not a real problem.

I thought a lot about it and I have no plans to trash money to update to Euro 4, Euro 5, Euro 6.... They want you to spend a lot of money trading in the old bike to only get 3 new years of "allowed use" each time you step up the Euro number. I'm having my tubes removed and my wheels sealed and next I'm going to update my suspensions to full Ohlins. In the future I could consider the idea to add another bike next to nineT but it should be a totally different bike with better performance, not the same bike with less performance because of the new regulations.

In the end, over here, we'll be allowed to drive only electric bikes or historical bikes.

 

[Nico9T]

My only concern is that if they are making any changes in the engine, horsepower wise.

It is very unlikey the same engine under EU5 regulations will have more power than the EU3 or EU4 versions. It could be if they increase its size (as they did with the R18) or if they switch to liquid cooling (no way on the nineT). If you ride an EU4 after an EU3 nineT you'll feel the EU4 lacks something compared to the EU3. Not too much or something you'd worry about, but you feel the EU3 engine is better, more "ready", especially at low rpm. The same will be for the EU5.

On moto.it they say there is the possibility that the modifications they did to the EU5 engine lowered its noise. But it's too early to say, we can only make guesses...

 

[Nico9T]

@Nico9T , yes i totally agree with every word you said about regulation, restrictions etc.
Believe me my friend, for me, a person who was riding for 15 years a K 1200 R with 163 hp before going to an R Nine T never cared for such a significant difference in power
otherwise i would have chosen and stayed with a more close to the K series bike.
e.f.

I totally agree with you. My previous bike was a Yamaha R6. I loved it but the only thing I really miss are its handling and its weight, not its power wich was available only at high rpm. You always had to drive it outside town as you would do on a racetrack to really enjoy it. Crappy at low rpm, uncomfortable inside a city, extremely dangerous when ridden as it was tought to be ridden but outside a racetrack. To enjoy it on streets you had to take too much risks.

The nineT has less power and much more weight but on streets it is much more enjoyable! You always have enough power when you open the gas, no matter the gear. I believe it has the right amount of power you can really enjoy on streets... even if you drive well above the legal limits. Engine is perfect for the bike, the only thing I don't like of it is it is noisy.

 

[Nico9T]

Since the Classic OE shock is so crappy I always thought all the nineT models had the preload knob.... Missing it is a pain in the neck if you often use the bike in two. It is the reason I'm saying no to the Ohlins BM 490. I thought it was different from the BM 440 only in color but I found it has no hydraulic preload adjustment. It would be a nice add if they put the preload knob on the scrambler and the pure.

 

[Nico9T]

Looks to have cruise control switch gear as well - ride by wire?

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They say it's the new three stages progressive nitrous controller. There will also be a machined version of it.