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The only big no I see on the nineT is the lack of instruments.
Come on, no gear indicator, no fuel gauge, no rev, WTF????

My husqvarna Svartpilen has a small round dash (electronic) and all is there.
Ideally, I'll like the analog for the rev, speed/gear/range/fuel on the LCD, there is room for that.
When you decided to buy the less expensive bike BMW had to cut the cost somewhere. All the instrumentation you said you don’t have is on the expensive version, except a gas gage and I don’t fully understand that, your almost sitting on the gas tank. If I’m questioning how much gas I have I just look down the fill spout into the tank. You have a Spartan motorcycle with little to go wrong or break. After you ride for a while you should be able to tell what gear your in just by the way it sounds. Having all those instruments isn’t going to make anyone a better rider, it’s just going to make a more expensive motorcycle that’s boarder-line to much already …..
 

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Look at my post again, on the Svartpilen which is a 6500€ bike, there is a very basic intrument, circular gauge for the rev, numbers for the speed, trip, total mileage, gear and a basic fuel gauge.
It's not a question of price, it's a design choice on the R9T, back to the basic kind of choice, but a stupid one.
And once again, I didn't go for the Pure but the Scrambler.
I get it for the fuel gauge and the rev indicator, true motorcyle spirit, but what I have difficulties to understand is the analog speedo and no rev counter but a LCD display with secondary infos on it (I don't care to have the mileage constantly displayed for exemple).
My dream meter would be a analog rev counter with LCD numbers display for the speed and there is still room for the gear indicator (but ok if not).

That's why I'll install the Koso meter
 

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Before buying, I thought those would be issues as well. I had the second clock add-on in my budget, but held off. Now, I am enjoying that it drives a stronger connection with the bike as I ride. To each, their own. :)
Totally agree, I was planning to add the rev counter but after 18 months of riding I don't miss it at all and like the retro look of the single clock.

The only thing I miss is something to indicate I'm in 6th gear as I still sometimes try and shift to 7th when cruising, I'm not interested in fitting a gear indicator & looking to see if I can design something that will be audio based connected to my bluetooth headset.
 

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My dream meter would be a analog rev counter with LCD numbers display for the speed and there is still room for the gear indicator (but ok if not).
Though it didn't have a gear indicator, my 6th generation Honda VFR 800 had a digital speedometer and large analog tachometer, which was right in the middle of the dash. I never thought much about it, but it was perfect in my opinion. My Mazda MX-5 (aka Miata) has the tach right in the middle, too. That's where it should be on any vehicle with sporting intentions!

Totally agree, I was planning to add the rev counter but after 18 months of riding I don't miss it at all and like the retro look of the single clock.

The only thing I miss is something to indicate I'm in 6th gear as I still sometimes try and shift to 7th when cruising...
This is one of the reasons I like having the second clock. Too often I was trying to upshift to another gear on the freeway, or trying to bang down to 1st coming to a stop then realized I was already in 1st. On my VFR, the neutral light would flash when downshifting from 2nd to 1st. I wish my BMW did that, then I wouldn't have been trying to downshift again when I was already in 1st.

I'd go on, but there's already at least one lengthy thread about the tachometer, aka rev counter. ;)
 

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Though it didn't have a gear indicator, my 6th generation Honda VFR 800 had a digital speedometer and large analog tachometer, which was right in the middle of the dash. I never thought much about it, but it was perfect in my opinion. My Mazda MX-5 (aka Miata) has the tach right in the middle, too. That's where it should be on any vehicle with sporting intentions!
That the case on the Svart/vitpilen too, not analog and not the prettiest but very functional
 

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A $3,300 Honda Grom has a gas gauge, rev counter and gear position. This isn't a question of cost. I rode bikes that didn't have a gauge or fuel light and you manually had to flip a lever when it began to sputter to switch to reserve. They didn't make me more in tune with my riding it was just a PITA. I like that the R9T is more old school but you can have that look and feel and not lose basic functionality; just look at Triumph.


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Side note, thinking of picking up a Svartpilen 401 as a fun, lightweight, around town bike. If Husqvarna made a 1301 Svartpilen I might be tempted, probably not but I'd give it a test ride.
 

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I think the single clock on everything but the 'Classic' and the discontinued Racer is a cost saving move by BMW. Same the with the steel tank, cheaper fork, front brakes, etc. And that's fine. I knew what I was getting when I bought it. I wasn't sure I'd add the rev counter when I bought the bike, but a good opportunity to buy one cheaper than brand new from the dealer came up here on the forum. I took advantage of it and I'm happy with the results.

As for looks, while the simplicity of having that single clock is kind of cool, to me the dual clock setup looks great, too. So it's all good.
 

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I have to agree that no tach or gear selector is not very "German" in most people's opinions. Stinks that we have to pay an additional $250+ to get a guage that gives us what should've been standard from the factory. Looking historic is one thing, if I wanted historic read-out's, I'd ride a Harley.
 

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From different opinions it is clear that when a bike is manufactured it is very difficult to satisfy everybody. Some owners buy the nine t simply to own the old school boxer air cooled engine and the clocks are not important, other prefer modern clocks and some prefer more old school. Fortunately it is relatively simple to bling the nine t and there are a lot of choice out there. The only nice to have feature would be a fuel gauge, but then, do we really need it? The ride expperience even on Racer with that basic suspension is lots of fun.
 

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From different opinions it is clear that when a bike is manufactured it is very difficult to satisfy everybody. Some owners buy the nine t simply to own the old school boxer air cooled engine and the clocks are not important, other prefer modern clocks and some prefer more old school. Fortunately it is relatively simple to bling the nine t and there are a lot of choice out there. The only nice to have feature would be a fuel gauge, but then, do we really need it? The ride expperience even on Racer with that basic suspension is lots of fun.
You hit the nail on the head, Johan. You can’t please all the people all of the time. But for me, the Pure was perfect. I liked the price point, the simplicity, the look of the single dial. I don’t need to see the revs, I can hear and feel them. I don’t need to know how much fuel in the tank, I set the Trip 1 when I fill it and know as I near 140 miles I will need to fill it soon - plus the low fuel will come on as a backup. I love it the way it is! I traded a 2016 R1200RS because I wanted to get back to the simpler days of biking and have been very happy.
 
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