[jpalamaro]

As we approach the delivery date of the 9T in the U.S., and admittedly, it's been difficult coming back here as there's not much new, BUT, at the risk of starting the thread anew, have the wheels been changed?

Question 1: Are the cast wheels from the R12R going to be fitted for the 9T, available as an option?

Question 2. Have the spoked wheels been modified so the spokes out 'outboard' and the tube is no longer a necessity?

Sorry to come back and all of this has been addressed already,

 

[1561]

... hello palomino, aren't you good friends with one of those BMW head honchos yet? us guys ('n gals?) on the forum have pretty much exhausted our influence on the matter. I guess YOU've got to take one for the team, go to your dealer and do a bit of jumping up & down, some abrasive words and shouting to make sure they'll give due respect and attention to our concerns re tubed tires .... and come up with a proper 21st Century solution ...

RSD btw, have replied to me, saying that they haven't got any plans to offer custom rims for the R9T ..... as yet. But their last sentence was: ... continue to watch our blog/website ....

 

[9T33]

Like whats mentioned above, we're basically out of info at this point.
At the moment this forum is the greatest resource for this bike and even it's lacking in info.
I think bike and car makers need to do things to keep the momentum going, Q&A's, small leaks, videos, etc.

 

[phillippeterson]

I'm not as experienced as most of you. Will someone tell me what's wrong with a tubed tire please?

 

[Mr. Bones]

Absolutely nothing.

 

[M&M]

1. There's no option except alarm.
2. Don't expect BMW to change anything on the wheels.

Both are a certitude.

If you want another setting, there are some possibilities discussed in other topics, but none from BMW for the moment.
Dealers will tell you, as soon as they have the bike, if you can put some alloys on it.
The rear wheel shouldn't be a problem. I suppose the front nether, but i have no certitude about this.

 

[NSX]

I'm not as experienced as most of you. Will someone tell me what's wrong with a tubed tire please?

Repairing a flat on the side of the road is extremely difficult. Many dismiss this problem saying you're not likely to have a flat, and if you do, just call for assistance. If you happen to be riding in the mountains where you can't get cell phone reception you are out of luck. Even if you contact someone, you're still stuck somewhere waiting for help to arrive.

A less serious problem is that tubes add unsprung weight, which negatively affects both ride and handling.

Also, tire manufacturers reduce the speed rating of their tubeless tires to the next lower rating if used with tubes. This is due to heat buildup.

 

[gerry]

...Repairing a flat on the side of the road is extremely difficult. Many dismiss this problem saying you're not likely to have a flat, and if you do, just call for assistance. If you happen to be riding in the mountains where you can't get cell phone reception you are out of luck. Even if you contact someone, you're still stuck somewhere waiting for help to arrive....

And all this doesn't happen with tubeless tires ?

 

[Bonkorama]

I guess the point is with a tubeless tire flat, you pull over, jump off, take out your plug-kit, plug the tire with the wheel on the bike, use the cartridges in the kit to inflate, and you ride away.

Its a much different process with a tube tire.

What stays the same: Its the same nail or screw or whatever that made your tire go flat, and of course all the swearing and tantrums, thats the same.

 

[gerry]

So not really a big difference.... My Elsa has made 136'000 km the last 3 years without a flat. The biked before this GSA had similar milage, all of them without a flat ( ok, knock knock knock) But I won't start to hyperventilate and spend another 2-3000 Euros for new rims. For me tube tires are good enough.

 

[Bonkorama]

Last fall, i put new set on my F800S on say.... a saturday, on monday i got a flat.

Los Angeles roads can be harsh. And theres plenty of alleys, construction zones etc to make flats NOT a rare thing around here.

Tubeless tires would be a super plus for me. Id pay extra, and pretty much whatever they'd ask for them.

 

[gerry]

Probably I would think again about my decision, if I would have your tire-history.

 

[M&M]

I guess the point is with a tubeless tire flat, you pull over, jump off, take out your plug-kit, plug the tire with the wheel on the bike, use the cartridges in the kit to inflate, and you ride away.

I had only one flat in my motorcycle life (many more on my bike ;-) ).
I took the repair kit and tried to get the plug into the tire. I destroyed all the plugs and remained sideways with my flat tire.
Happily for me, i had cellphone reception.

 

[Bonkorama]

I just now had the awful realization if there is not going to be a center stand available for this bike. If I get a flat roadside, how can I even take my tire off and get it to a repair shop ???
Sigh....

 

[cherry street]

I just now had the awful realization if there is not going to be a center stand available for this bike. If I get a flat roadside, how can I even take my tire off and get it to a repair shop ???
Sigh....

is BMW roadside an option

 

[Bonkorama]

is BMW roadside an option

do they patch tubed tires roadside?? If they do, then yes! ( but I don't think they do )...
Ive never had a towtruck NOT damage bike they taken -
In 34 years of riding motorcycles ( I gotta lot of miles in the seat), Ive only had to be towed 3 times. ALL three times different tow truck operators scratched, bent, or dinged or flat broke something on my bike.

So unless the BMW roadside tow-operators are a different genus of monkey, I expect the same.

Sure hope hope a center-stand and tubeless tires aren't something we will have to wait long for.

kuz good grief.

 

[rkevwill]

I have no experience with the BMW roadside service, on bikes, or even on my BMW autos. I can tell you though, with Mercedes roadside service, if you break it, you pay for it. Meaning, they are only in the Mercedes database, if they agree to properly handle it. In over 30 years of owning Mercedes cars (usually old ones), I've only had 2 occasions to use them, both WAY away from home, and the service was impeccable. I have heard a couple of mentions here about BMW roadside service. Whats the quality in the US?

 

[Bonkorama]

I've use the BMW roadside for my wife's X5, just last month. (water pump). It was spectacular. But it's an SUV, and has on the rear a simple hook you use to pull the vehicle up on the flatbed. The tires are the tie-down points.

Bikes are more fragile ( obviously ), and the handlebars are used as tie-down points.

Over-crank the handlebar tie-downs and your flat tire became a MUCH, MUCH BIGGER pain in the arse. Plus often they use s-hooks for the handlebars, and they are always missing the vinyl protective covering, hence scratching the living **** outta your bars.

etc, etc, etc..

I just want a center stand, and a tubeless tire to make my life as simple as possible. Its not asking too much. I just want to change my own tires. Im a capable adult ( most of the time LOL )...

Its utterly ridiculous to think id have to call a tow-truck for a flat tire... to be TOWED somewhere.

Maybe ill just lay the **** thing on its side. i know!!! Ill bungie down a big rolled up blanket on the back, so when i lay the bike down - i can put that under it!!!

sigh....

 

[frank]

If you can't fix a flat tubed tire on a motorcycle - maybe you shouldn't be riding...just say'n - ain't much different than a bicycle - so tell me all ya'll can't change a tubed tire on a bicycle?!?!?...a tubeless tire you need special tools, a tubed tire is pretty straight forward, but then again, I started riding 45 yrs ago, when I used to have to adjust/balance my carbs, change my own tires, fix flats, adjust valves, etc. etc. etc.

 

[rkevwill]

I'm too old to fix a flat tire on a bike, in the middle of no where. In my garage, sure. I'm calling a tow, and getting a ride home via friend or limo LOL.