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2024 R12 first impressions - walkaround and test sit only

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#1 · (Edited)
As mentioned in my R1250RS demo ride writeup, I got a chance to see the new R12 in person last weekend, though it was a new bike on the local dealer's showroom floor, not a demo. To be clear, I'm talking about the R12 cruiser variant, and not the new R12 nineT. I was very disappointed the new R12 nineT and R12 were not among the demo bikes at the demo days. I really wanted to test ride both new bikes. (They did have a 2023 R9T and 2023 Scrambler demos though. Kind of odd to have bikes that are out of production if you ask me, though people did test ride them.)

The new R12 on hand just came in, and is in black paint. It looks a little smaller than I'd imagined. Fit and finish look good, as you'd expect of a BMW. The single seat looks good with the bobber rear end and is pretty comfortable. The all-black mag wheels on this bike aren't fancy, but look pretty good with the rest of the bike being in black. (I generally prefer cast wheels, but on this bike spokes I think would be a better fit visually.) The dual exhaust design kind of looks out of place to me on this bike. And the combination of black handlebar and silver clamp looked 'off' to me. Also of note, the R12 badges below the tank look like a total afterthought.

The seat is low, as you'd probably guess on a cruiser style bike. The footpegs are further forward than on our R9Ts, but are still definitely mid-controls, not forward. As with the R18, there's only so far you can move the footpegs forward due to the cylinder heads sticking out. The handlebars' grips are higher and further back than the tubular bar on our bikes, so you're sitting pretty upright.

Probably the biggest difference to me in sitting on the bike, however, is how much smaller the tank is than on our R nineT models. From the top, the center of the tank is similar to the R9T's tank, but on the sides it is much smaller. Whereas our tanks jut outward and are rounded, the R12's tank is more slender. It's not slab-sided, but the differences in size and looks are huge. It kind of looks too small in my opinion, like you're on a much smaller displacement motorcycle. Frankly, I didn't like it.

Overall, it's a decent looking bike and a nice modern take on a cruiser, but I actually think it looks better in photos. That's the opposite of what I usually experience, where many bikes (and cars) look better in person. In this case, part of the difference is the paint. In my humble opinion, the R12 just lacks character in all black. With its smaller stature, upright seating position, comfortable handlebar and generally non-aggressive looks, what could be a power cruiser instead just looks and feels kind of anemic and boring, at least in black. Hopefully it will ride better than it looks.

All that being said, I still really want to ride the new R12. I'm hoping the local dealer will have a demo bike I can test ride later this year. Some part of it appeals to me, and maybe a good test ride would make me appreciate the new machine more.
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#3 ·
As mentioned in my R1250RS demo ride writeup, I got a chance to see the new R12 in person last weekend, though it was a new bike on the local dealer's showroom floor, not a demo. To be clear, I'm talking about the R12 cruiser variant, and not the new R12 nineT. I was very disappointed the new R12 nineT and R12 were not among the demo bikes at the demo days. I really wanted to test ride both new bikes. (They did have a 2023 R9T and 2023 Scrambler demos though. Kind of odd to have bikes that are out of production if you ask me, though people did test ride them.)

The new R12 on hand just came in, and is in black paint. It looks a little smaller than I'd imagined. Fit and finish look good, as you'd expect of a BMW. The single seat looks good with the bobber rear end and is pretty comfortable. The all-black mag wheels on this bike aren't fancy, but look pretty good with the rest of the bike being in black. (I generally prefer cast wheels, but on this bike spokes I think would be a better fit visually.) The dual exhaust design kind of looks out of place to me on this bike. And the combination of black handlebar and silver clamp looked 'off' to me. Also of note, the R12 badges below the tank look like a total afterthought.

The seat is low, as you'd probably guess on a cruiser style bike. The footpegs are a little further forward than on our R9Ts, but not much. As with the R18, there's only so far you can move the footpegs forward due to the cylinder heads sticking out. The handlebars' grips are higher and further back than the tubular bar on our bikes, so you're sitting pretty upright.

Probably the biggest difference to me in sitting on the bike, however, is how much smaller the tank is than on our R nineT models. From the top, the center of the tank is similar to the R9T's tank, but on the sides it is much smaller. Whereas our tanks jut outward and are rounded, the R12's tank is more slender. It's not slab-sided, but the differences in size and looks are huge. It kind of looks too small in my opinion, like you're on a much smaller displacement motorcycle. Frankly, I didn't like it.

Overall, it's a decent looking bike and a nice modern take on a cruiser, but I actually think it looks better in photos. That's the opposite of what I usually experience, where many bikes (and cars) look better in person. In this case, part of the difference is the paint. In my humble opinion, the R12 just lacks character in all black. With its smaller stature, upright seating position, comfortable handlebar and generally non-aggressive looks, what could be a power cruiser instead just looks and feels kind of anemic and boring, at least in black. Hopefully it will ride better than it looks.

All that being said, I still really want to ride the new R12. I'm hoping the local dealer will have a demo bike I can test ride later this year. Some part of it appeals to me, and maybe a good test ride would make me appreciate the new machine more.
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I really liked the looks of the black version they had in the press photos with the chopped rear and laced wheels. But when I started playing around on the builder, the price got out of control really fast, and I decided for that kind of money the NineT version is a much better jumping off point. I'm not in love with the new twin exhaust on either of the new models to be honest. They cleaned up a lot of the mixed finished metal bits on the rest of the bike and then put on a chrome exhaust with bright silver, polished end cans. Just looks off to me. The original 9T's exhaust would have looked better.

Still nothing on the floor at my local dealers unfortunately, but can't wait to test them out.

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#4 ·
Thanks for the walk-around review and photos, TimC. As a long-time BMW guy, I really want to like the R12 bikes, but for me, they're getting a little out of my price range and also away from the classic styling of the R9T. Everything must change, of course, so I'll keep an open mind to the design evolutions and hope to see one in person. But, seeing these photos makes me happy to have my 2021 Pure, even after extensive customizations.
 
#5 ·
My R9T Pure is my first BMW, but I'd wanted a BMW for many years before I bought mine. It was one of the cheapest new Beemers around, and even after spending a few grand on mods, I feel like it's been a pretty good value. The R12 in the photos above has a sticker price of almost $15K USD. The new R12 nineT that dealership just got (but I've not yet seen in person) is over $19K. That's a lot in my opinion for a retro-styled machine, even with options. I think they're starting to price themselves out of the market.
 
#7 ·
I’ve ordered the R12 T and I agree with you, it is pricey when I added the options I wanted.

However, the fit and finish is so much better than other makes I’ve had and others I looked at.
Two Scottish winters with vast amounts of road salt dumped on the roads and my 2019 R9T still cleans up as new, no corrosion, my other bikes aged rapidly due to lower quality parts/finish and I was finicky about keeping them clean/protecting them.
Here in the U.K. my 2019 depreciated very slowly in value and the trade in was excellent.
 
#8 ·
Thanks for the write up @TimC, great work!


Sorry if this offends guys, but I think it's .......... a Pig.

It's styling reminds of the cheapo small capacity cruiser *style bikes the Chinese were churning out a few years back.


* When I say 'style', I mean it has none.
 
#9 ·
TimC,

Reckon you’re right re the tacked on R12 badges under tank. Looks like brackets and screws everywhere to hold on a pretty tacky looking item. My second order of business will be to remove. Only let down of a pretty good looking bike otherwise.

I’ve been trundling BM gs adventures around for years, but needed something to have some more fun with at my age. Besides dropping 300 Kilograms of bike with panniers on my leg last year.

Happy so far.

cheers,
Merv