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Alpina Vs Kineo Wheels

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#1 · (Edited by Moderator)
MODERATOR EDIT: This thread was created from an off-topic conversation from another thread. It's a valid discussion, just in the wrong place... ;)

So the question is - What aftermarket tubeless wheel do you choose to replace the stock wire tubed wheels? Alpina or Kineo?


Nico9T, check out Alpina wire wheels ...similar to Kineo and cheaper
I checked them in the last weeks. Actually they are not so much cheaper than Kineo and they uses o-rings to seal the rims, it is not something I trust. A lot of guys with different bikes had problems because of it.

They will fix everything if you bring or ship the wheels to them but it would be a pain in the ass. The only ones tubeless by design are the Kineo. Jonich uses Bartubeless to seal the wheels. I will choose between Kineo and OEM with Bartubeless.

Once Alpina were a lot cheaper because they rebuilt the wheels using your OEM hubs. Now their price, if you choose the better options, is too much closer to the Kineo.
 
#2 · (Edited)
The Alpina for the RnineT is using the new improved
  • STS-2 Nipple Technology - Double Seal: Two O-Rings on each nipple, seal against precision-drilled holes in the rim profile to ensure a stable seal and a safer tubeless system.
  • Forged Rims - WLT (WeldLess Technology): Forging the rims does not require any bending or welding, so there are no weak points and the rim is much more uniform in strength.
  • Less Maintenance: Easy balancing and less required maintenance thanks to forged rims combined with STS-2 Tubeless System.
  • Innovative design: A rim without dimples for an incomparable aesthetical result and a clean design.
  • Alpina Color Packs: Explore new color options from Alpina with their RIDE, STYLE, and B-Color packs
Actually I was quoted around $2100 usd including shipping...Kineo is around $2700
I plan on keeping all my original OEM parts that I upgraded on my Racer...If ever I had to send my wheels back for repair, i'll just put my OEM back on. I plan on going with sport tires for my new wheels instead of sport/touring tires.
 
#3 · (Edited)
I like the Alpina look much more than Kineo, but Kineo are better engineered. The only hole in the rim is for the valve. You can't do better than this. You remove all the potential problems in the long run.

Kineo is the best solution available: the spokes are outside the air chamber, so it is absolutely perfect solution. To me, if I am going to spend $2100 for Alpina I can also spend $2700 for Kineo. If I just want to have tubeless wheels and I don't mind too much the weight I can seal the OEM ones with Bartubeless for "only" $270. I am considering a lot Bartubeless not only from a cost-to-benefit perspective but also because I am located less than 50Km from them so I would bring my wheels directly.

In the end it is the same as the suspension choice. base:cartridges, top: full forks. Wheels base: Bartubeless, top: Kineo.

Full forks, shock and Kineo would cost me 6100 euro (7200 USD). Andreani cartridges, Ohlins BM440 shock, Bartubeless would cost me 2200 euro (2650 USD). It's about 1/3 of the price but I'd get much more than 1/3 of the performance. It is something I am thinking a lot about. If I am honest to myself I have to say that if I wanted the less weight possible and the best handling in speed I should trade in the nineT and add the 7200 USD (Full Ohlins + Kineo) to buy an S1000RR....

Anyway I am waiting for a Kineo quotation from Ghezzi & Brian. I contacted directly In-Motion (Kineo manufacturer) but they don't sell directly to retail, you have to deal with a distributor / reseller.

A lot of guys are really happy with Bartubeless. My doubt is that it will make the wheels less serviceable. But if I have problems I could just brings the wheels directly to them, it's an half an hour trip from my home.
 
#9 ·
Yes the hubs are the real problem... but I believe it is if you mind too much about it. Suppose you only have 2000 to spend to improve your bike. Would you spend them in upgrading suspensions or replacing wheels? I would do the suspensions first. Doing both would get the max improvement for money but while I feel suspension have to be changed, I don't mind too much about the wheels. I'd like to have tubeless more because of safety if I get a flat than for weight reduction. As I said I didn't buy the nineT wanting a masked super sport.. If that was the plan, with the cost of the nineT I could have bought better handling and less weighted naked bikes. But I was looking for another kind of bike.
 
#10 ·
Alpina "ride" (base), anodised, are 2100 euro VAT included while the "style" ones, painted, are 2400 euro VAT included. The style are priced inline with Kineo. Better look than Kineo but I have too much doubts over the long term reliability that are only partially mitigated being close to Alpina factory.
 
#12 ·
I've had both Alpina and Kineo wheels on my bike. My personal preference is Kineo as I think their tubeless design is much better plus I just love their looks. However I have to say that Alpina customer service is excellent. I bought my Alpina wheels second hand and a few months later they developed a slow leak from both wheels. The Alpina agent talked with the factory and they agreed to repair my wheels free of charge, and at a time of my choosing. They were happy to wait till the end of the riding season to let me enjoy my bike (was only a slow leak). When I chose to send the wheels I just had to pay the shipping costs. Considering I was not the original owner that was a great deal. So I take my hat off to Alpina for this.

In fairness I should also point out that they were the old V1 model of the wheels, not the new V2 version. I actually sold the wheels to a forum member and I've not heard any bad things so I assume they are still going strong.

The Kineos don't lose any pressure at all...