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Perhaps we don't hate the new edition RnineT 2024 after all?
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The local Big 4 and Aprilia dealer recently added Triumph to their dealership's roster. They have a nice selection of new and some used bikes on hand. I have to say that if I were to replace my BMW right now there are a couple Triumph's I'd definitely consider. But I've not seen the new R12 nineT in person yet, so maybe it will be a contender when the time comes.
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Triumph Thruxton 1200R Final Edition would be it for me if i had to buy a new Triumph, and i'd take it over the new R12NineT.
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Looks like acknowledgement that the new R12 ninet is basically an exercise in cost cutting and refresh for refreshing sake, rather than an improvement. I suspect that saying it's not an improvement is effectively saying it's a backward step given the commerical pressure to always support new releases. For sure it's still a great bike in it's own right. Perhaps it's better not to compare it to the original and just treat it as an all new thing of it's own.
Well. I may be the only person on this forum to own an R12 NineT.
Great bike…. But I didn‘t leave another NineT to own it.
The reality is - this is the BMW progression of the model.… there are no more NineT to buy new, and in time none left elsewhere- and even the accessories builders will move on.
Sorry guys …. Understand if you’re not happy to have me here.
I could be prepared to be the moderator for the R12 NineT section…. But I am Also happy to be ejected!
Great bike…. But I didn‘t leave another NineT to own it.
The reality is - this is the BMW progression of the model.… there are no more NineT to buy new, and in time none left elsewhere- and even the accessories builders will move on.
Sorry guys …. Understand if you’re not happy to have me here.
I could be prepared to be the moderator for the R12 NineT section…. But I am Also happy to be ejected!
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Hopefully you will stay ! 🇬🇧
1400km in…. I’m staying with the Bike! Waiting for Pier City to respond to some requests.
We're happy to have you here!
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For sure the new R12 ninet will still be a great bike and will still allow for modification to improve it in the direction one wants to go with it. While I much prefer, and will stick with the older model to the end, as it suits my desires in a bike much better, that shouldn't take away from people enjoying the new model. Sorry if my lamenting the changes is taking the shine off for others - i'll be more respectful. As I said, i just need to stop comparing it to the outgoing bike and treat it as a new bike from BMW. I guess I had hopes of a move in the direction of HP2 haha.
The R NineT is unique and beautifully odd looking. That being said, I just ordered a 2024 R12 NineT 719 as I prefer the cleaner lines of the new model better.
Congrats on the ordered bike!
It would be great if you'd post an introduction to yourself when possible - even if it's once you get the bike and post a photo of it with your intro!
Link: https://www.ninetowners.com/forums/new-member-introductions.241/
Personally I'm not in love with the horizontal line from tank to tail on the R12. I love how the side panels on the R Nine T break up the line and also reinforce a line that slopes downward from the tail through the cylinder heads to the center of the front wheel. This gives the classic 9er a feeling of momentum vs. what I perceive as the flatness of the 12 (especially the cruiser version) that is too similar to Triumph's design cues for my liking.
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Yet to have owned the old nor 2024 R9T. When doing a short demo ride of a used one it was not long enough to have insight into egos...just had read the old bike pegs might be a bit high and the length of the bike a bit short. That plus it seemed hard to put taller bars on the bike due to cable length.
I hope the 2024 R12 model is a bit like my old 71 R75/5 from back in the old days. Yes, a life time ago in boxer years. Longer bars (check), looks (check...not the same as the /5 tank but nice just the same), maybe engine will feel a bit like my 05 r1200rt. Have fingers crossed that it will feel right ergo wise (maybe drop lower pegs, drop longer frame).
I really dig the red/black color combo on the R12 and thinking would like the upgrade small digital screen. Too bad the dropped 10hp on the bike (to sell overseas I think) vs the R12 R9T trim. Just hope the rear suspension is comfortable enough. And the two ride modes it comes with are enough to enjoy it fully vs the R12 R9T trim.
I hope the 2024 R12 model is a bit like my old 71 R75/5 from back in the old days. Yes, a life time ago in boxer years. Longer bars (check), looks (check...not the same as the /5 tank but nice just the same), maybe engine will feel a bit like my 05 r1200rt. Have fingers crossed that it will feel right ergo wise (maybe drop lower pegs, drop longer frame).
I really dig the red/black color combo on the R12 and thinking would like the upgrade small digital screen. Too bad the dropped 10hp on the bike (to sell overseas I think) vs the R12 R9T trim. Just hope the rear suspension is comfortable enough. And the two ride modes it comes with are enough to enjoy it fully vs the R12 R9T trim.
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I had my first look at an R12 NineT at the dealer this afternoon. Didn't have time for a test ride yet.
I can confirm that for me, the new 9T is just nowhere near as appealing as the older bike. This may be partly due to the only example in the shop being the ugly (to me) red frame 719 version, but it just looked busy and didn't speak to me. Even the 719 bits didn't look near as nice as the older machined 719 parts. I also didn't like the frying-pan teflon-look finish on the swingarm, the powdered metal cast look of the 719 heads, and the rearsets. This is of course my personal opinion only and many may find the new bike very nice and appealing. I thought that perhaps in the flesh i might too.
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I certainly wouldn't swap my 2020 for this new model, even if there was a substantial sum of money coming my way as part of the swap - which is unlikely given the price of this new bike was approximately 55% more than mine was new (so the difference nearly covers all mods i've done).
Look forward to a test ride though - just to see if my expectations are confirmed or if there are some pleasant surprises.
Cheers, Dom
I can confirm that for me, the new 9T is just nowhere near as appealing as the older bike. This may be partly due to the only example in the shop being the ugly (to me) red frame 719 version, but it just looked busy and didn't speak to me. Even the 719 bits didn't look near as nice as the older machined 719 parts. I also didn't like the frying-pan teflon-look finish on the swingarm, the powdered metal cast look of the 719 heads, and the rearsets. This is of course my personal opinion only and many may find the new bike very nice and appealing. I thought that perhaps in the flesh i might too.
I certainly wouldn't swap my 2020 for this new model, even if there was a substantial sum of money coming my way as part of the swap - which is unlikely given the price of this new bike was approximately 55% more than mine was new (so the difference nearly covers all mods i've done).
Look forward to a test ride though - just to see if my expectations are confirmed or if there are some pleasant surprises.
Cheers, Dom
I ordered a 2024 R12T. I know I love the engine and I don’t mind the riding aids. Ultimately I don’t care I just enjoy riding and they won’t distract from that.
I still love the look of the previous model and prefer the rounded tail hump. I was thinking of swapping the cloaks for a digital gauge anyway and when riding I won’t notice the new rear end.
I still love the look of the previous model and prefer the rounded tail hump. I was thinking of swapping the cloaks for a digital gauge anyway and when riding I won’t notice the new rear end.
Yeah, those Option 719 II pics (thank you to @DomNineT for posting) look fantastic. I still haven't been able to sit on one in person, but that silver and red package is stunning and the details on the bike are really impressive. Personal taste aside, it's clearly a bike that was fully designed with intent from the ground up. I like my NineTs like my coffee - black, but that silver/red combo looks really great in every pic/video I've seen. Like you, I loved the look of the older gen too (obv, having bought one), particularly the more aggressive stance. But from all the reviews I've read/watched, the handling characteristics don't seem to have changed much. It leaves me thinking that the slight change in rake/trail isn't really the thing contributing to the more sporty stance of the first gen bikes. I think it might just be the long tank. The shorter tank and resulting change in position of the seat to the bars just naturally gives the bike a slightly more laid back silhouette. I think the hump on both gen bikes suit the design of each bike respectively, so I wouldn't nitpick it.
I'm debating on whether to just go put the order in and skip waiting for a demo. I would normally never do that, but I've had an R9T and three R1200Rs, so I don't think I'm going to find anything shocking on a test ride. Maybe just some personal ergo things that I'd have had to have changed anyway.
I agree with most of your observations; the red frame is ridiculous indeed, add to that the front fender holder and the "inverted" forks, it makes the whole bike tacky. The brushed aluminum tank is a gimmick if you ask me. They did remove the dead fish snorkel though and added a more comfortable seat and bar-end mirrors. All this to jack up the price by several thousands? I keep my perfect 2021 custom.9T Pure.
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At first I was thinking I didn't like the red frame look either.
Then I found myself warming up to it...
Now I think I know why:
Long live Hodaka! 🤘
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Yes, tacky is the word. I love a brushed aluminium tank, and on a black framed 9T it is by far my favourite colour. But I think it needs to be the focal point. Adding another "look at me" element like a bright red frame just looks tacky and cheapens it to me.
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Don't want to double the post but fits here as well - just FYI a customized R12
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